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#8051743 Jun 27, 2013 at 03:46 PM
Guild Officers
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Post your thoughts on student skills here. Reflect on and respond to each others' thoughts.
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#8069638 Jul 01, 2013 at 09:12 AM
Guild Officers
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Regarding internet/cyber security (Security is King quest):

Question 1: What would satisfy you that students knew all the key logins for their online learning and how to reset/retrieve those if they happen to forget them?

Question 2: What are the critical concepts and/or skills for students in terms of internet/cyber security?
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#8072030 Jul 01, 2013 at 04:53 PM
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Managing passwords and logins is an increasing issue. I get parents who complain about having to check grades in Gradelink and assignments in edmodo and other information on websites. I don't know if there is an easy answer to this.

Having a login notice or activity tracking notice would help to know if students are using the system. If they are not then you could contact them to see if they had forgotten their passwords or are just not logging in. I know in our situation it is crucial that the parents are aware of this requirement and support the student in completing assignments.

Perhaps they should even go through a password reset/retrieval process so that they know how to do that.

The most important concept is password security. In other words Don't share your password with a friend and protect your identity and reputation online.

Here is a video that addresses the last point
"So many worlds, so much to do, so little done, such things to be." - Alfred Lord Tennyson
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#8072457 Jul 01, 2013 at 06:52 PM
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Question 1: What would satisfy you that students knew all the key logins for their online learning and how to reset/retrieve those if they happen to forget them?
I am not too worried about my students since I have administrator access to reset passwords on our school computers. Also, since I enrolled my students in edu.glogster, storybird, bitstripsforschools, GLink (Google Drive), and Manga High, I can change passwords quickly. I have had one or two students who are way below grade level forget their passwords so frequently that I kept them on file and had to log them in myself.

Question 2: What are the critical concepts and/or skills for students in terms of internet/cyber security?
The major issue is to prevent outsiders from identifying students by location. My students are taught to stay on task and not be tempted to click on outside links that appear from time to time.
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#8072833 Jul 01, 2013 at 09:22 PM
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For logins, students have a large index card in their desk. I have second graders, and without this I would be checking my spreadsheets a lot during the day. Some of the low risk logins like AR and Fasttmath have the same password for the students. For safety, I created a Netiquette website that I post on Edmodo as well as go over at the start of school.
http://edtech2.boisestate.edu/dinsmorek/502/netiquette.html
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#8087393 Jul 04, 2013 at 02:10 PM
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I never really never thought about how to help students remember log in passwords. I have (ha ha) a password protected site on my computer that stores passwords.

Cyber security is stressed but I do not think the seriousness of this really understood. We have discussions about what is accessible to others via Facebook and even their shopping habits on Amazon. They must sign a form that they will not share their school access codes.

As nursing students they are professionally aware of the rules for protecting patient information, HIPAA regulations, and know that students have been dismissed from the program for violation of these rules.
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#8091690 Jul 05, 2013 at 01:09 PM
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Regarding internet/cyber security (Security is King quest):

Question 1: What would satisfy you that students knew all the key logins for their online learning and how to reset/retrieve those if they happen to forget them?

Question 2: What are the critical concepts and/or skills for students in terms of internet/cyber security?

Q 1: The first question, I believe to be asking about good login keys. Students need to know the process of retrieving forgotten passwords. I dislike it when a student says, "Mr. Denham, I made a new account for google, you need to add it to the system." and I ask "Why?", they answer "I made a new one because I forgot the password to the other account"

Q 2: Students must not use the same password for every account. Passwords need to be complex yet rememberable. Convincing kids to do this is difficult.
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#8095724 Jul 06, 2013 at 03:09 PM
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I would have as an activity/quest during the first class to have all students log in and then to deal with any issues that come up. Separately, we have classes in online awareness that cover the issues mentioned so we are pretty well covered.
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#8116152 Jul 10, 2013 at 02:01 PM
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I teach middle school so kids here only have one login and one password. They keep the same throughout their years here. They rarely forget their password but, if they do, I can look it up. Typically a kid would go either to the Advisor or the Tech guys for this. They cannot reset passwords for themselves. That way we can keep track of them. I suppose that we don't teach this skill because they use the same login and password for everything and we don't want to encourage them to have other logins and passwords for other things. That's silly, now that I'm thinking about it. Of course they all use Facebook or whatever is popular.

I am concerned about using the students' logins outside of this school world, for example, on 3DGameLab quests, because they are first name last initial year of graduation. Is that too much information in the outside world? Is a student identifiable by that information? We do teach cyber safety in 7th grade. How do we know that they understand, retain, use those skills? Not a clue. At their age, I hope their parents are paying attention.
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#8136553 Jul 14, 2013 at 08:11 PM
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I would love to have a quest set up, either in GameLab or in the college's LMS, that would allow students to go through the steps necessary to retrieve lost information. To actually DO it, not just read about it, since I think that's the only way to really ensure students know the procedure. But I don't see how this could be done without some sort of programming to simulate the actual process.

Since my students are adults, the burden for remembering their passwords is on them. It is frustrating when students forget their passwords or usernames, but I have to say, that is less of a problem now than even a few years ago. With some of the older students, who don't use computers for anything but school, you still run into that problem, but most younger students are so plugged into various systems that they have a handful of passwords they use and can usually recall.

Frankly, I don't feel qualified to teach anyone how to manage passwords since I am at a loss as to how anyone is supposed to follow what is considered good practice: to have multiple, complicated passwords of uppercase and lowercase letters, numbers and symbols that don't have any obvious relation to your life and to change those passwords frequently. I've never heard anyone explain in a clear and reasonable way how that is even possible!
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#8152835 Jul 17, 2013 at 09:20 PM
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I can see that everyone has similar experiences with student passwords and these skills really are crucial to having anything happen in the use of the technology. As the network administrator at school I am able to reset passwords when necessary for the school network log ins and for the department's portal log ins. Teachers who use StudyLadder and suchlike are responsible for their own classes - I don't have time to monitor every single log in for over 700 students only those which give students access to the network at school and the department portal. I used the ThinkQuest platform with many students at one stage and the students who forgot log ins there had to message me via the browser interface so I could give them a new password. I used to like that particular system. These days the students or their teachers need to let me know personally if they have log in issues. Although if teachers are going to use the portal with students more then they need to learn to administer their own classes and that would alleviate even more work! At the moment just teaching the teachers to store security questions for resetting their passwords on the portal needs work as well - I see another couple of poster sessions coming up at school!
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#8154464 Jul 18, 2013 at 08:02 AM
Guild Officers
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Regarding internet/cyber security (Security is King quest):

Question 1: What would satisfy you that students knew all the key logins for their online learning and how to reset/retrieve those if they happen to forget them?
At this point I've only worried when folks can't log in regularly. So I guess I'm satisfied when they are doing the work in a timely manner. I think part of what allows this type of disconnect to happen is to not ask students to regularly for a week or two (at least 3-4 times a week). It's about getting them to log in enough to make it a habit.

Question 2: What are the critical concepts and/or skills for students in terms of internet/cyber security?
The content I tend to have students think about is virtual identities in terms of internet/cyber security. I like to get them to think about privacy settings, usernames that show up publicly, etc.
Shelley Rodrigo, Ph.D.
Blog: http://rrodrigo.faculty.digitalodu.com/
Twitter: rrodrigo
"That is how innovation happens; chance favors the connected mind"
--Steven Johnson
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#8186361 Jul 24, 2013 at 03:40 PM
Guild Officers
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Question 1: What would satisfy you that students knew all the key logins for their online learning and how to reset/retrieve those if they happen to forget them?

I find that even at the college level that students forget their passwords. Since we use single sign on for school wide apps, their usernames/passwords for Gmail, Google Docs and Canvas (our LMS) are the same. This past fall they change computer logins to match this as well. So I do take time the first day of a course to make sure everyone gets on a computer, checks their email, and opens the LMS. If they don't know their password I send them to the tech desk for help. Usually it can be resolved in 15 minutes or so. For online students it works pretty much the same way. They will respond to my email that they can't login and they can call or visit campus for help.

Where it gets tricky is using additional technology in class. When student create accounts for the online textbook or other tools that we use, I advise them to use their school email and same password (I know, a no-no) for the account. But there are always one or two that don't. When this happens there's usually quite a bit of time wasted, trying to recover passwords and occasionally having to call tech support after class or create a new account.

Question 2: What are the critical concepts and/or skills for students in terms of internet/cyber security?

Creating STRONG PASSWORDS when required. Some students have difficulty creating accounts because they want to use a simple password, but the account wants 7+ letters, a capital, a number, and a symbol.

READ the feedback on the page. I don't know how many times I've gone around the room and the people who were stuck had messages like "username already taken", "invalid email", or "weak password". They just keep clicking submit and getting taken back to the same place.

Be careful and realistic. Students seem to either be too loose with their info OR too tight. When I taught pre-service teachers, this was a concept I covered. My advice was to not post anything online or in an email that you wouldn't say to ANYONE publically. I've also run across older students who don't want to create any accounts because they are concerned for their privacy. Understanding privacy and what is private information is important to both the over and under sharers.

MissGeek (aka Lori Ferguson)

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